number two, is the economy stronger than free money from the fed? and number three, can interest rates and stocks both rise together? jim and jeff are in chicago. okay. guys nice to see you first of all. >> hey, sue. >> is good news finally really good news? jim you first. >> yes, it is. unfortunately yesterday, i hadn't arrived at this conclusion but i've been convinced today it piz. good news is good news because the market realizes that we're washing liquidity probably at a point where more than we should be based on the economic condition but the fed is hamstrung and going to be difficult for them to walk back. the fed knows since the fed's hands are tied let's celebrate while we can. good news, as long as it doesn't get too hot, i hate to say goldie lock's people said before me, not too hot. >> all right. moderation in all things. what do you think, jeff? >> sue, certainly adding jobs to the u.s. economy is good news, but i'm going to disagree slightly to my friend mr. your rio here. we saw that underscored on the nonfarm payrolls, we saw it go